NEW GROUPS SUCK. THEY ALL SUCK. No getting around it, you can't start a new group without it sucking. I get annoyed at people who start groups. I just don't like them. Everybody thinks that they're going to be new and innovative, make their group different from every other fucking group out there. NEW AND FUCKING INNOVATIVE. It takes a lot of time and effort to make a group work, and you have to have some very good connections. The one thing that makes me really angry is how people say "We don't care what other people think, we're just going to release our packs like everyone else and have FUN!" BULLSHIT. There is no such thing as fun in the ansi scene. The scene wasn't based on FUN. FUN SUCKS. Get it through your fucking heads. If you say that, you're automatically labelled as bullshit because you cannot run a group and have fun. If people drew ansis for fun there wouldn't be groups. You don't draw ansis for fun, you draw them to try and be better than everybody else. That's how the scene works. So, if you're starting a new group, please eat shit and die, because I DON'T LIKE YOU. -creep [synapse/evolution ss]