Painter5 floaters

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By mongi (dialup163-4-33.swipnet.se - 130.244.163.225) on Saturday, March 6, 1999 - 07:45 am:

I have asked this before, but I've never got a proper answer. Is it possible to make transparent layers in Painter as in Photoshop5? I mean as flexible and easy. All I've found out is pretty uncomfortable to handle..


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By root88 (ppp-as16-13.nss.udel.edu - 128.175.145.32) on Sunday, March 7, 1999 - 03:05 pm:

Yeah, in your floater list, hit floater>transparent floater. You can only paint on it with the layer tool though. The layer tool only has airbrush, brush and pen as options though. :(


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By Funbaby (209-239-217-11.lax.jps.net - 209.239.217.11) on Sunday, March 7, 1999 - 08:10 pm:

Root88 --

That's a misconception. You can turn any brush into a layer brush by opening its flyout, and changing its mode to "Plug-In", and its variant to "Transparent Layer Brush".

:)


(Still not as good as PS layers, though.)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By mongi (dialup205-2-26.swipnet.se - 130.244.205.90) on Monday, March 8, 1999 - 09:44 am:

exactly.. it's not as good as PS layers. So I guess Painter just can't do it, right?

If Painter had the layer features and some other neat stuff from PS, it would rock! Or if PS could handle brushes as well as Painter, that would rock too.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By Funbaby (ip187.pom.primenet.com - 204.212.52.187) on Monday, March 8, 1999 - 11:09 am:

I don't really use the Painter floaters anyway. When I work in Painter, I treat my image like a painting.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By necro (proxy.planetinternet.be - 194.119.238.166) on Monday, March 8, 1999 - 12:15 pm:

I want to learn using painter, I know how to use layers(funbaby's way)...but I FUCKING don't know
how to use the lasso/wand tool on those layers


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By Funbaby (ip187.pom.primenet.com - 204.212.52.187) on Monday, March 8, 1999 - 01:50 pm:

Hmmm...come to think of it, I've never even tried that.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By God among Lice (bootp-231-230.bootp.virginia.edu - 128.143.231.230) on Monday, March 8, 1999 - 04:17 pm:

yea.. I'm like funbaby.. When I'm using Painter, I'm treating it simply as a painting. The whole point of a lot of those brushes is that they are affected by what's already been put down on the canvas. You're moving around the "pigment" that's already there, instead of some kind of sterile airbrush layering technique. I find the idea of having a whole bunch of different layers for highlights and shadows in different places to be kind of strange.

So... real painting isn't anything like painting with transparent layers, and I think you get a richer look to things when you're applying brush strokes directly to the canvas, mixing and dragging and smearing at the same time. That's what makes Painter so powerful.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By Funbaby (ip212.pom.primenet.com - 204.212.52.212) on Tuesday, March 9, 1999 - 08:58 am:

I don't actually use any brushes that smear as they paint. I generally use the oil brushes, and blend with the Just Add Water brush, and sometimes the Sable Chisel Tip Water brush.

But that Sargent brush smears like crazy... :)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By mongi (dialup205-2-36.swipnet.se - 130.244.205.100) on Tuesday, March 9, 1999 - 12:39 pm:

Well, the pics I've done in Painter so far have been treated as paintings (oil). But there are still details I'd like to add in layers sometimes. Otherwise using Painter is just like painting.. almost.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By Funbaby (ip199.pom.primenet.com - 204.212.52.199) on Tuesday, March 9, 1999 - 02:10 pm:

If I use floaters, it's usually just so I don't really screw up something I've already done. Like if I have to paint over something, I'll create a new floater for it, and it if starts coming out alright, I'll drop it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By necro (proxy.planetinternet.be - 194.119.238.166) on Wednesday, March 10, 1999 - 01:01 pm:

well, when you use an airbrush in real life, you cannot work with layers(ofcourse), but you work with masks....plastic cards in diff. shapes,so you can cover diff. parts of the picture or to create a sharp edge....that's the main reason why I use the wand/lasso tool....if I don't work in layers, it is very difficult to select some part of a picture later(I don't finish my shit in one day) cos it is covered with different colors.
please don't answer that their is lots more in painter than just an airbrush, cos everybody else I told is did it before:)


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